E14: Spending a Day with People Who Think You Hate Them – Jefferson Shupe

After a heated debate left him questioning his approach, Jefferson Shupe attended an immigration rally, where he expected hostility but found something entirely different: people with fears, hopes, and stories that echoed his own. Shupe, author of The Bathwater Brigade, shares the challenges of confronting his own biases and the surprising empathy that emerged from stepping outside his ideological bubble. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! Related Links: Shupe’s book, The Bathwater Bridge – https://bathwaterbrigade.com/ Top of Mind episode on immigration and America’s labor shortage - https://www.byuradio.org/top-of-mind-immigration-and-americas-labor-shortage-are-guestworkers-the-solution Follow us on social media!   Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/    Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast    X -  https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod    Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast